[WMPH] Mass Destruction

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Results for Destruction week:

• (Saturday - Fortress) Doclance's eKruger and Baldur victorious over Dan's eThagrosh and Vayl, 1000 points win via objective - Thornwood Front
• (Friday - Fortress) Kim's eVlad and pSorscha victorious over Les' pKreoss and pFeora, 1000 points win via forfeit (casterkilled pFeora) - Northeast Khador
• (Friday - Fortress) Kim's eVlad and pSorscha victorious over Fred's eAsphyxious and pDeneghra, 1000 points win via forfeit (pDenny surrounded by Kayazy, most of Cryx decimated) - Northeast Khador
• Wed - Tiny (estryker/brisbane)Draw vs Fred's Gaspy and Deneg I think... (from Tiny on MWPH forum) - Southern Cygnar
• Friday - (estryker/brisbane)Loss vs Mang's Oldwitch/vlad (from Tiny on MWPH forum) - Southern Cygnar

Results for Contested Ground week:

• (Sunday - Fortress) Kim's eVlad and pSorscha victorious over Fred's eAsphyxious and pDeneghra, 1000 points win via forfeit (pDenny casterkill, mostly bad rolls for Fred) - Northeast Khador

Non-SR games:

• (Saturday - Fortress) Karl Manalo (Circle Orboros) versus Patrick Palma (Trollbloods) - please inform me of details of this match; also on what territory this will be on
• Fought against Brian this afternoon. pVlad vs Grim 500 points, Destruction. Won by assassination (technically, Brian conceded but basically Vlad and Drakhun was in melee with Grim). Llaelese Front again. (from Dick Sy via Facebook)
• Oops, I forgot. Also took on Bogs. Karchev vs Reznik 500 point match. Karchev wins via Beast 09 Assassination on Reznik. No Man's Land. Non-SR game. Put it in Llaelese Front as well. Thanks! (from Dick Sy via Facebook)

NOTE: Edit, added more of Dick's games (Non-SR) and Tiny's games (SR). Removed Summer Rampage standing removed. Please refer to Mang's table here.

WMPH Ladder (as of May 18 2009)
Started April 2009

64 Ian "Kim" Navarro
59 Fred Escalona
42 Friedrich Lopez
32 Karl Manalo
29 Peter Anthony Dalope
27 Crisencio "Bogs" Galvez Jr.
26 Laurence "Doclance" Tan
26 John "Tiny" David
25 Dick Sy
17 Christian "Kei" Valentin
13 Mike "Mangsky" Ang
10 Lesther Calina
7 Arvin Tan
5 Mark "Mooms" Aliaga
5 Joma
5 Enrique
5 Christian "Fluffy" Peña
5 Cholo
5 Badj Mercado
5 Arsenio "Raf" Rafael
5 Aerol Bibat
4 Zig
4 Carlos Sandico
3 SJ Quema
3 Patrick Palma
3 Edward "Emp" Fernando
2 Alger Lim
1 Raymund "PG Dan" Tesoro
1 Brian Palma

About Miniature Wargaming

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About the Author

My name is Ian Navarro, a miniature wargamer and hobby enthusiast from the Philippines. I started playing miniature wargames in 2000 but I've been into tabletop roleplaying games for as long as I can remember.

I got my feet wet via 3rd edition Chaos Space Marines, then flitted around with Mordheim and Black Templars Space Marines. But I made my mark in the local community with my push on Warhammer Fantasy with Vampire Counts in 2002. I started improving my gaming as well as my painting, as well as joining tournaments. Eventually I got to organizing the events and using my website development skills to help further the community - which was then structured into Lito Tan's Rolling Hills Gaming Club.

In 2005, I became one of the founding members of WARMACHINE Philippines and have succeeded in making the gaming group recognized by Privateer Press' own No Quarter publication via the WARMACHINE Philippines blog. In 2008, I became an official Press Ganger for Privateer Press.

Presently, I continue to help further the hobby and the community. I still paint, play and make terrain in addition to other things - organizing events/tourneys/megabattles, administration duties on the blogs and forums, developing and updating the map-based game tracking systems.

I play a lot of Khador, some Trollbloods, and some Legion of Everblight from Privateer Press. I also play with Necrons, Imperium Space Marines and Chaos Space Marines for 40K; and Vampire Counts and Daemons of Chaos for WFB. I'm also looking into Anima Tactics, Infinity the Game and Pulp City.

I believe (and have proven) that the gaming community can exist with various game systems. I have played casual games, participated in tournaments and organized events for BOTH PP and GW (and hopefully for the others, too, later on). The gaming community may seem fractured with the game of preference, division in individual belief, distance of venue, etc. - but so long as guys still get together and enjoy the games - the gaming community can still thrive in this world of instant noodle mentality.

I hope this blog will be of help to you. Thanks for reading.

+++ Ian "shink1m" Navarro
+++ Good luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity. +++ Everyone will always have a reason to backstab everyone else. Everyone will always have a reason to spend. Everyone will always have a reason to hate. Everyone will always have something to complain about. Such is the way of the world. +++

Newbie questions answered here

From Scarella, posted on the Neutral Grounds forum:

You need patience, time, $$$ and devotion to truly enjoy this hobby... cuz like all hobbies, the more time and effort you put into it the more it rewards you...

i guess a good barometer for success in the hobby is whether or not you've made models before and dabbled in any sort of RPG's like Dungeons and Dragons... since GW is pretty much a mix of both...

Well one thing to do is have a hobby-buddy when getting into GW... so you can always play vs. someone who is just starting, build stuff at the same time, and if the forces can link-up like marines and guard, you both can tag-team vs. one of them bigger armies...

And if you like the armies in the starter sets go for em, like the upcoming fantasy one will have 100+ figs in it... dwarves and goblins so loads of coolness, and mind you not 100+ of boring "green army men" style figs at that... but ace looking figs...

also don't believe everything you hear about "suggestions" or what units to take... the community is pretty small so there are certain local trends for both games and that's where these assumptions are from, but Fantasy Battle (FB) lends itself to a more rock-paper-scissors approach since most of the armies are represented in the playing groups, while 40K it's space marines or chaos space marines everywhere...

Once you've decided what game you like, pick a race based on models you like... most armies can adopt a wide range of styles with notable exceptions like there is no shooty-chaos fantasy battle army, nor an all-cav skaven army... pretty much by choosing an army with looks and background that you like, regardless if you win or lose at least you like your army...

The Games-workshop website has a nice intro section for both games and and focuses on in the individual armies as well

For Warhammer 40K Army building:

For Warhammer Fantasy Army Building link:

Look for the "Getting started with XXXX-army" under each army heading for a intro about getting an army started... and if these articles seem like too much reading then perhaps reconsider since there's more required reading once you're underway in the hobby...

And for the tough part... painting... well i'll go out on a limb here and say if you don't have any model-hobby experience it will be an uphill battle for you... hobby experience being model planes, tanks, gundams, tamiya 4WD , anything crafty... best first purchases are typically if you are not getting armies in the starter sets or a battleforce... would be reg-box+army book+and basic painting supplies... I know many guys over there suggest cheaper hobby alternatives, remember though that some of these guys are great modellers and experienced painters... the GW paints are easy to use and are great for matching up with the pics.... true you can achieve decent effects with cheaper alternatives but as someone just getting started in the hobby, perhaps not...

Getting into the whole GW stream of things may seem daunting at first, but just have patience and adopt a squad, then character, then squad, then character line of painting and purchases, don't buy everything at once... you'll get overloaded... the reason for starting out on a squad is since most starting people need to get the basics of painting, and starting on your army commander ain't the way to go... as you progress your painting will get better, and army commanders are loaded with details... might as well start on the soldiers and then paintup a character fig/vehicle/warmachine/etc., when your skills are developing...

hope that helps.... and about the $$$ part, just sell one of your kidneys you have two of them anyways hee hee


From Kim, posted on the Neutral Grounds website:

1. Is there a plastic version for the Warhammer Fantasy? If there is, is it significantly cheaper? With my limited resources, this is an important question.
There are plastic models and there are metal models. Such applies for both 40K and WFB. Cheaper? None of our geeky hobbies is ever cheap (CCGs are way more expensive than miniature wargaming). It's all just a matter of proper allocation of funds.

2. Should I buy the army books first before the figs? How will I know if the army I picked is right for me? I mean, I like some of the orc figs & most of the ogre figs...I don't know their strengths & weaknesses.
Instead of aiming for winning, field an army that you'll enjoy building and painting. Any army you'll play with becomes competitive given the right treatment. Asking the veterans also help.

3. There is a smaller point army for Warhammer Fantasy which is basically dungeon-crawling with figs. Alam ko meron nito e. Magandang stepping stone to WFB for the cost-conscious.
There was but I forgot the name. The level-up-xp-gain version of WFB is Mordheim, Inquisitor for 40K. Both are rarely played these days though. Veterans with huge armies can always downgrade into smaller pointage games. Aim for a small 500-point skirmish group, but don't expect to field uber-strong (Lord-level) characters on small pointage games though.

4. In lieu with question#2, is it possible to combine diff. races?
More often than not, you are limited to a single race when duking out with big armies. There are mercenary options that you can add to some armies like Cavalry or Ogres, but not all. There are numerous troop choices for each army available already anyway.

5. With my questionable painting skills, is there a paint remover that is applicable to this hobby?
Prestone brake fluid. Tried and tested.

6. How do you do those cool-looking bases? Where do you get the materials (greeneries, rocks, etc.)
There are many many options on this one - cork, eggshell, gravel, putty, cardboard. There are also many sites online that can help you with this.

7. Marami pa bang naglalaro ng WFB at 40K now? (Are there many WFB and 40K players now?)
Marami naman (Plenty enough). Population of players depend on venue though.